Vista a Netware přes IPX

Netware 3.x? Hezké muzeum. :)

Odpověď je ta, že virtualizované Windows XP nebo starší se z toho počítače připojí. Visty potřebují nějaký Netware z tohoto tisíciletí.

You have got to be kidding me...

No offense, but - you're trying to connect the latest offering from Microsoft (that won't connect easily to obsolete Windows servers either) with an OS from Novell that was released in the early 1990's and was obsoleted several years before Vista's release. Why would Microsoft provide connectivity to an obsolete OS from a competitor/partner they have a love/hate relationship with, when they don't support connecting to their own obsolete OS versions? Why would Novell provide connectivity to one of their obsoleted products for Microsoft's latest client OS?

Sorry, but upgrading from Home Premium to Ultimate won't help either.

No, you can't connect TCP/IP to a NetWare 4.11 box. It only understands NCP over IPX (NCP being NetWare Core Protocol). Microsoft chose not to support IPX in Vista. Novell does not provide a protocol stack for client OS-es and hasn't since Windows 95. Even the preview Vista client has disclaimers all over it that it only works with NetWare 5.1 or later, only over TCP/IP (which has been the preferred protocol for NetWare since 5.0 was released almost 10 years ago.) There is no other option for these people than:

1) Upgrade their NetWare to one from this century. 4.11 has been obsoleted for years. Nobody supports it anymore. When the Vista client for NetWare gets released in a month or 2, it will not support NetWare 4.11 - in fact, it won't support NetWare 5.0. The latest version, OES1, does support native (clientless) file access from Visa and will support the Vista client when it's released. Novell will be releasing OES2 this year, which will have even better Vista support.

2) Backrev their Vista box to XP. XP has no problem with IPX or ancient, obsolete NetWare. Microsoft has to provide them license for XP. One of the antitrust rulings was that a license has to cover current and at least one prior release level of the same software.

Jojo to byly časy. Uptime serverů v řádu let...

jj, historky o hledání zazděných serverů...

...a ten parádní had na obrazovce, kterej se prodlužoval podle zatížení serveru...

Napada me nainstalovat na virtualni stroj do Visty Win98 a tam to rozjet.
Co s tim chces delat? Normalni praci proti Novel 3 serveru?

Omlouvám se, že jsem to tu nechal ležet bez odpovědi. Chtěl jsem zkrátka z nových stanic s Vistami dělat to, co z WXP - využití NetWare fileserveru, Btrieve pro prehistorické aplikace, tisk na NetWare tiskárny i pro údržbu (správu) těchle nezmarů. Jsou to samozřejmě dost staré instalace, ale dosud stoprocentně plnící to, co se od nich chce. Na netu se o tom sice dost píše, ale funkční řešení zřejmě neexistuje. Jediná možnost je zřejmě doinstalovat TCP/IP na ty veterány. Pak by se snad i ty Visty mohly chytit.

a) na NW 3.x nejde TCP/IP doinstalovat
b) na NW 4.2, možná snad i na 4.11 jde dostat TCP/IP, ale Vista klient se k němu přes TCP/IP nepřipojí.

Smůla.

Hmm, tak to je dobrý vědět. Díky za info. Ušetřil jsi mi další vztekání a zbytečnou práci (u tý 4.11).